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Hi users

As you all might be aware that we had a heated discussion between authors and users from STP community regarding sharing of ebooks. So, we are starting this thread to try to find a solution which should help in resolving this for both authors and users.
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Our aim: As the name and punchline suggests, is to simply promote sharing among users in our community for mutual benefit. Our focus was never on ebooks but has always been on non-commercial material. We are seeing a huge increase in activity in ebooks section in recent months but that's all natural and organic and not endorsed by us at all.

As a middle ground solution we offer:-

We request our users to:
 1. Be polite and respectful to the authors whose hard work we enjoy
 2. Buy books using the discount and special offers offered on the site, so that authors also get something back in return for their hard work.
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Benefit for Users:
 1. Ebooks can stay on the site with no legal risks to the site or the user.
 2. More ebooks and content will be available to read.
 3. Ability to interact with authors and other like-minded readers around the world.

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« Reply #120 on: July 29, 2011, 03:36 AM »

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Re: Open discussion inviting all the users regarding ebook sharing
« Reply #121 on: January 23, 2012, 09:14 AM »
At this point they shelved the SOPA/PIPA.  People don't seem to realize it isn't the first time.  I've followed these "bills" in different forms by different names for 2 years now.  They'll change and try to push them back through. (To keep updated get emails from demand progress.  They ask for donations but regardless will send updates as the bills change ect.) They may have said oopps on the bill but then instead took down megaupload getting EXACTLY what they wanted anyway.  In one way or another we have lost NINE file sharing sites today.  Some are blocking IPs from the US.  Some are doing mass file deleting.  Some have kicked people off with no warning (mine did.)  Isn't that basically the start of the bill anyway?  The blocking of the IP is the scary part.  They got people scared.  They couldn't win in one way so the changed their strategy thinking that most people wouldn't see it as the same thing.  It is.  Why should some sites not be seen in the US?  This isn't China.  But they scared the crap out of owners.  Hopefully it dies down, but by the time it does, the bill will be back.  Hopefully they won't win, and it's amazing that in the end they think they can take it all down.  With technology now there will always be something else, another way around it.  They will always be like a dog chasing their tail and wasting our tax dollars to do it.  Hopefully this site won't die before they realize they are wasting their time.

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Re: Open discussion inviting all the users regarding ebook sharing
« Reply #122 on: January 23, 2012, 11:33 AM »
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With technology now there will always be something else, another way around it.  They will always be like a dog chasing their tail and wasting our tax dollars to do it.  Hopefully this site won't die before they realize they are wasting their time.

Heh, sorry I couldn't resist - I love these.  So you're basically saying that stopping crime is a waste of time if the criminals fight back?  :o ...that knowing counter attacks will be made should be reason enough to stop trying? Really? ...  Reeeeeeally?  ...  :o  No. 

Now don't get me wrong - I've had my run with piracy in the past (though not so much as to put "TorrentUser" in my username, heh).  Free is great!  Who doesn't like free! But I still knew that it was, at its very least, technically stealing ... and I think you know that too.  It hurts Authors, raises prices, and influences the economy.  In short, it affects everyone, even you. So to pretend the government shouldn't be allowed to stop it is either hideously ignorant or maliciously shortsighted. 

Take this as self-evident: The government should and DOES have the right to protect the hard work, intellectual property and copyrighted material of its citizens.  Taking down Megaupload is well within these rights, but only because of DUE PROCESS.  In the case of MegaUpload, due process was accomplished: there were complaints, investigations, warrants, (will be) court hearings, etc. 

That's where THE PROBLEMS with SOPA and PIPA come in.  They would have allowed the government FULL, UNCHECKED CONTROL over the internet WITHOUT DUE PROCESS.  Obviously we agree this is bad, but that doesn't mean shutting down sites INDIVIDUALLY, WITH DUE PROCESS is bad. It's just bad for pirates ;) and I can see that in your reply it's bad for you. Wasting their time however, it is not.  Like you more-or-less said, I too hope a better solution can be reached before STP comes under attack. :)
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Re: Open discussion inviting all the users regarding ebook sharing
« Reply #123 on: January 23, 2012, 04:41 PM »
How can someone speak out against piracy while wanting a site who simply lets piracy go on their site and "hope" nothing happens to the site?  It's hypocrisy. Wanting the government to regulate while running moderating a site who turns a blind eye?  C'mon.  The whole section of this site is copyright infringement and should be shut down and you know it.  Yet you say I'm the wrong one while you moderate this turning a blind eye until you are "caught" and take just that author down.  Walking that gray line huh?  At least I'm seeing things in black and white, honest about my thoughts while not stating I'm doing the "right" thing when it's obvious it's not true.  You are breaking the same laws as everyone else while trying to stay under the radar.  I'm not saying I want your site to go down.  I hope it doesn't.  I like this site.  But I don't moderate and let illegal stuff go at least...I just go along for the ride while you guys allow the site to break the law.  ;) My point is the government can keep trying.  They have a lot of bigger fish to fry.  An accredited study in England has PROVEN sales in Hollywood are UP even with piracy and numbers have been, let's say "fudged" for a nice way for me to say it, in order to take site like this down.  In 2003 they made 20 m in 2009 they made 4.2 billion in music alone if I'm not mistaken.  Maybe you should encourage them to go after these bad copyright infringements *cough cough your site* with your mods when we will just pop up elsewhere get smarter, and keep going eventually and so on.  OR...maybe they can balance the budget.  Health care.  Fix tax issues.  Hmmm...I can think of better things for them to do.  My name may offend your delicate sensibilities Mod of illegal site.  But I'm still a buyer of these authors fine books.  I can't tell you how much I've spent.  All because I found them on sites like these and wanted more of their work.  The companies have been taking down books as requested, as have you.  Do you want more government interference?  Apparently you like having the government having their nose in our business, but I don't want them wasting time and resources to micro manage and slowly work their way into our internet.  Whether it be your illegal site or others.  I hope your site will survive as it's a wonderful site as you said. 

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Re: Open discussion inviting all the users regarding ebook sharing
« Reply #124 on: January 23, 2012, 06:29 PM »
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How can someone speak out against piracy while wanting a site who simply lets piracy go on their site and "hope" nothing happens to the site?  It's hypocrisy. Wanting the government to regulate while running moderating a site who turns a blind eye?  C'mon.  The whole section of this site is copyright infringement and should be shut down and you know it.  Yet you say I'm the wrong one while you moderate this turning a blind eye until you are "caught" and take just that author down.  Walking that gray line huh?  At least I'm seeing things in black and white, honest about my thoughts while not stating I'm doing the "right" thing when it's obvious it's not true.  You are breaking the same laws as everyone else while trying to stay under the radar.  I'm not saying I want your site to go down.  I hope it doesn't.  I like this site.  But I don't moderate and let illegal stuff go at least...I just go along for the ride while you guys allow the site to break the law.  ;) My point is the government can keep trying.  They have a lot of bigger fish to fry.  An accredited study in England has PROVEN sales in Hollywood are UP even with piracy and numbers have been, let's say "fudged" for a nice way for me to say it, in order to take site like this down.  In 2003 they made 20 m in 2009 they made 4.2 billion in music alone if I'm not mistaken.  Maybe you should encourage them to go after these bad copyright infringements *cough cough your site* with your mods when we will just pop up elsewhere get smarter, and keep going eventually and so on.  OR...maybe they can balance the budget.  Health care.  Fix tax issues.  Hmmm...I can think of better things for them to do.  My name may offend your delicate sensibilities Mod of illegal siteBut I'm still a buyer of these authors fine books.  I can't tell you how much I've spent.  All because I found them on sites like these and wanted more of their work.  The companies have been taking down books as requested, as have you.  Do you want more government interference?  Apparently you like having the government having their nose in our business, but I don't want them wasting time and resources to micro manage and slowly work their way into our internet.  Whether it be your illegal site or others.  I hope your site will survive as it's a wonderful site as you said.

Alas, despite my best effort, you did get me wrong.  :-\  I'm NOT speaking out against piracy (though I see how someone in our positions could interpret it that way) ...but I'm getting ahead of myself...

First, on the personal attacks: Yes, I help moderate a forum full of discussion and questions about books. I didn't build, nor do I run the site, nor do I have any legal responsibility for what other members post.  I certainly don't remember signing anything... I'm free to post books with the rest of you.  Oh, and I'm also a buyer of these authors fine books. How does that make me a hypocrite? I do, however, along with the other mods, take it upon myself, as all members should, to enforce the author-opt-out list, protecting the interests of authors who wish to be excluded from our social network, and thereby protecting the interests of STP and its members. Not to mention I only just became a mod ;) Oh, and I am not offended by your name.  It's just ... obvious. ;D]

But back to the issue: I'm simply illustrating the other side of the coin, not saying I like it ;). I've heard arguments like yours from every pirate who's concerned for their waters (myself included when I'm not playing devil's advocate ;)) and while yours are admittedly more level-headed then most, I still can't help but point out what we're all ignoring.  I'm talking about the false comparison between the takedown of MegaUpload and the draconian rape of our 1st amendment rights that would have been SOPA/PIPA. Whether or not there are bigger fish to fry is besides the point - piracy is a BIG fish. I don't want it to go away EITHER(!!!) but we can't wish the government to back off with one-sided arguments. 

The truth is, it's NOT black and white ... It's a grey area, and that's my area ;) Of course I don't like ANY government having its nose where it doesn't belong, but surely you also see that it does belong in matters supporting its citizens when their rights are being trodden? ...When copyrights are being so frivolously and massively ignored?  SOPA/PIPA was an unconstitutionally extreme step in the exact opposite direction -- thank god it was shot down, if at least only temporarily --  but (and here's my point) that doesn't mean Big Brother was wrong to prosecute Megaupload with due process.  Neither is it wrong to continue its efforts despite the spy-vs-spy of DRM-vs-hackers (which I do like, actually, for many reasons, not the least of which because it encourages digital evolution!).  I understand, without a drop of hypocrisy, that this also places STP under the magnifying glass, so I can only hope that those focusing on our community see that we're much more than the money-laundering, international crime ring that was MegaUpload, and like you said, there are bigger fish to fry ;)

Anyway, I hope you see I'm not attacking you, piracy, or anti-piracy.  I'm simply talking about the false comparison between the Megaupload takedown and PIPA/SOPA.  Carry on!


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Re: Open discussion inviting all the users regarding ebook sharing
« Reply #125 on: January 23, 2012, 08:42 PM »
SOPA and PIPA have their hand WAY far down in the cookie jar on this one. It was explained here on this site:
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This dude couldn't have put it any easier for people who don't understand the bill that didn't pass. I am telling you, it was horrific! I was one who didn't get all the in's and out's of this but he did a power point type discussion and I totally get it now. And it infringes on all rights. It would be a witch hunt on sites who have anything to do with sites deemed "illegal" in the US governments eyes. And we all know that could be anything! You go Greyfox, I totally get where your coming from. But I am afraid when they get it right, we ALL who love the internet will suffer the consequences.... Oh, your doing great for a "new" mod by the way!!!  :-* And @torrentuser...? ok, you just cant "go along for the ride" and it doesn't matter that you are not a Moderator of this site. You are in the same boat with the Mod's no matter what. You just post on an "illegal" site and make it what it is. You are a part of this site as well, you are here posting books are you not. Downloading books also..right? I buy tons of books also and share here. And these "Mods of illegal site" keep this site going for you to enjoy, as I am sure you do. I understand copyright and frankly just don't really give a fat damn. I am in a situation where I can't afford much right now, so these books have saved my sanity!! All my money goes on my kids. But I do agree with you all the way that the gov. should be going after much worse issues than copyright infring. It's a waste of time if you ask me. Health Care and people out there that prey on children are MUCH bigger issues than us book worms who enjoy reading....  If they pass any bill that takes our rights away in any fashion look out, cuz it won't stop there. And SOPA might get more than they bargained for. Like when Youtube is gone, or Facebook for that matter.  Check the Youtube site out, you will get a big eye full of how SOPA and PIPA want things to work in their version of Stepford Internet.....
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Re: Open discussion inviting all the users regarding ebook sharing
« Reply #126 on: January 23, 2012, 08:56 PM »
Really is two different issues, although they're linked, of course.
First, EVERYONE has to be against SOPA/PIPA.  You're talking the beginning of the 21st Century's equivalent of George Orwell's "1984."  The only way for the Government to really combat piracy is to monitor everybody & everything online.  And not only our own Government, but all Governments worldwide working together - all monitoring EVERYBODY & EVERYTHING.  But that's what SOPA/PIPA would lead to down the line.  Can you get any more "1984" than that?  Talk about scary!

Of course, I agree with Grayfox, it would encourage "...digital evolution..."  If the worse were to happen, there would be those who would find their way around it.  (May it not get that far!)  "But let it not be said that we did nothing."  We do need to stand against anything that would lead down that road!

The second issue is all us little pirates running around -- with our sense of entitlement.  And yes, we all have it.  We were born & raised with FREE libraries, FREE TV (even if you do choose to pay for Cable), FREE radio (even if you now choose to pay for that, too).  Add to that the spirit of the Internet.  When it began all us little pirates-to-be worked day & night to get everything imaginable up on the web.  And 95% of all our labor was for FREE.  It was a labor of love, of building a source of all mankind's knowledge & achievements for everybody -- FREE OF CHARGE.  Then, of course, the .com's did start to make money, which infected a lot of that spirit.  But that original spirit is still there.  The spirit of sharing with everybody worldwide.  (With perhaps an underlining hope for a better world?)

So now, focusing on STP, we've got souls who rightly feel entitled to go to the library & read anything they want to for free, with the awakened spirit of sharing with more than just family & friends - of sharing with everybody.  So what happens? 

As I wrote in this Thread in the beginning of Sept.:
...I would bet that the majority of the people that are downloading & not later buying the books are those that would get the books from the library if they could.  So, they are not costing the authors anything, but they are contributing greatly to those authors' popularity...

[And] ...most people are inherently honest beings.  The authors will make out in the long run, like with any kind of advertising and name recognition...

So, many of us actually BUY more books now than we would have, if we are able to.  Are we appeasing our guilt?  Are we attempting reconcile our sense of entitlement, and our need to share, with our innate honesty?

Well, we are all still here, and I don't think any of us is going anywhere willingly.  So, whatever we each need to do to appease any guilt...

Quoting again from that Sept. post:
Perhaps if authors don't want to think of our sharing as great advertising they could consider it tithing. For I truly believe that they will get it back ten-fold, or a hundred-fold, or maybe even a thousand-fold.

Perhaps that belief is my own appeasement, but I am still here, too.
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Re: Open discussion inviting all the users regarding ebook sharing
« Reply #127 on: January 23, 2012, 09:38 PM »
I for one would be more than happy to pay a monthly fee to a site for ebooks. That way when i get a book that seems to have been written by a 5 yr old, i wont feel so bad (no offense to 5 yr olds), because it was included in my fee. I have found authors here that i would have never even known about, and turned around and bought their work.  On the same note, i have read authors here and thought " I would have been so pissed if i had bought this book!!"  I think for good authors, sites like this definitely benefit them whether they want to admit it or not.  And those crappy authors, well.....

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Re: Open discussion inviting all the users regarding ebook sharing
« Reply #128 on: January 23, 2012, 10:55 PM »
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But that's what SOPA/PIPA would lead to down the line.  Can you get any more "1984" than that?  Talk about scary!

Of course, I agree with Grayfox, it would encourage "...digital evolution..."  If the worse were to happen, there would be those who would find their way around it.  (May it not get that far!) 

Thanks for your input, everyone!
As per the above though, I just wanted to make a couple things clear:

1) We are in complete agreeance that SOPA/PIPA is VERY, VERY BAD - Big brother should NOT have unchecked control over anything.  Period. Everybody should continue to be against this

2) I'm not on any "side" of piracy/anti-piracy for this discussion ...  I'm considering the realities of both. And it sounds like you are too.  We know it's piracy, but we also know it's a grey area.  In fact, I was about to go into my usual thoughts on black, grey, and white piracy, and how some are bad, negligible, and even good ...  but I'd just be You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login ;)

I look forward to reading more thoughts from other members about SOPA, the Megaupload takedown, and their feelings on piracy.
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Re: Open discussion inviting all the users regarding ebook sharing
« Reply #129 on: January 24, 2012, 12:16 AM »
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2) I'm not on any "side" of piracy/anti-piracy for this discussion ...  I'm considering the realities of both. And it sounds like you are too...
In no way did I mean to imply that you were for - or against - piracy.  I was only agreeing with, and giving credit for, your insight that it would encourage "digital evolution."  Thus is the reality of human nature.  We, meaning humans, will always find a way "around" something blocking our way.

Yes, I was trying to consider the reality of both sides of the question. 
On the one hand, with the establishment of the idea of Public Libraries, we are born with what we consider the "right," whether we be rich or poor, to expect to be able to read anything and everything free of charge. 
Also the very idea that you shouldn't read if you can't afford it is abhorrent.
We are also natural-born sharers.  With books, I think, we share because of how much has been shared with us. 
On the other hand, most of us are innately honest, and caring enough not to want to hurt our beloved authors.

It is a moral quagmire, and we each have to muddle through it in our own way.   
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Re: Open discussion inviting all the users regarding ebook sharing
« Reply #130 on: January 25, 2012, 04:20 AM »
I still say Big Bro should leave us alone and go after the people who use the internet for the harm of others. Like dirty pedo's and the such. >:( Authors should use what name they have made for themselves to battle things like that. Because I don't think piracy will ever totally stop. :P Like fighting a loosing war. I still think that we book worms are hurting no one in the long run of it. And I still don't feel guilt for getting these books. I buy them also. And review everyone I read wherever I can write one. And I love having a "real book" to hold in my hands and read. But I don't have a bookstore where I live. The horrid economy stomped it out of existence. But like Christy123 said some of these books I would have been soooo ticked off if I would have spent what money I have on them >:( ! You both Greyfox, and Rockyanne have made so many wonderful points in your discussion.  8) I love reading both of your posts! Thank you for the great debate and discussion you both presented!!  :-*
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Re: Open discussion inviting all the users regarding ebook sharing
« Reply #131 on: February 06, 2012, 08:33 PM »
No matter the way you want to view it, this is stealing if you want to accept it or not that´s your option but this is exactly why they tried to pass that awful SOPA law, cause posting a book that isn´t yours to give and giving it away for free without the author receving what they are due or giving concent is STEALING.




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Re: Open discussion inviting all the users regarding ebook sharing
« Reply #132 on: February 06, 2012, 09:56 PM »
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No matter the way you want to view it, this is stealing if you want to accept it or not that´s your option but this is exactly why they tried to pass that awful SOPA law, cause posting a book that isn´t yours to give and giving it away for free without the author receving what they are due or giving concent is STEALING.
Uh, precisely why are you here on STP?   Fellow thief??   Irate author??
If you've read through various posts & Threads, you'll find that we all do know & accept exactly what piracy is.
But as has been said, "there is no black or white, there is only grey," as to the reasons why we do it anyway.  "It is a moral quagmire, and we each ... muddle through it in our own way."
Your option is whether to join our pirate community or not.  If you really feel that strongly, I would suggest not.
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Re: Open discussion inviting all the users regarding ebook sharing
« Reply #133 on: February 06, 2012, 10:13 PM »
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No matter the way you want to view it, this is stealing if you want to accept it or not that´s your option but this is exactly why they tried to pass that awful SOPA law, cause posting a book that isn´t yours to give and giving it away for free without the author receving what they are due or giving concent is STEALING.


Actually...there are quite a few authors around here who DON'T mind their works being shared and have chosen to use this site as a way to get more publicity, reviews, and readers. They also chose to use the site to positively interact with their readers...and for the other authors who are against ebook sharing we have the Author Opt-Out list.

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Re: Open discussion inviting all the users regarding ebook sharing
« Reply #134 on: February 14, 2012, 10:21 AM »
I found this article and thought I would share.  I know it was from August 2011 however this author has no problem sharing his work.

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It is nice to see an author not worrying about the whole money issue.  To see that people sharing some books may lead to more sells.  I agree I can not even count how many books I have given to friends and family to borrow because I loved them so much.  I have found several books on this sight that have lead me to find and yes buy books because I loved the author.
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Re: Open discussion inviting all the users regarding ebook sharing
« Reply #135 on: February 15, 2012, 01:54 PM »
Realistically, it is the "advancement of technology" that has created this issue of "sharing" and distributing of materials. It started with the music share files, then movies and videos, and now books. What did people think when the e readers were developed and promoted with market saturation. It was inevitable that people would figure out ways to "share" with others, the reality of it is that there really is no way to stop this practice of free share sites as long as publishing companies and the authors permit their work to be sold as ebooks.  To promote and sell an ebook of an author is the least expensive way to sell, distribute and promote a new book. yet in many cases the ebook is more expensive than the hardback/paperback version. It is a no brainer that the latter method is a much more expensive method of selling books. It needs to be realized that as long as these new high tech gadgets continue to be developed, the original method of collecting royalties, per book sold per song sold or played can no longer be an accurate way for the author/artist to collect for their work. The change needs to occur between the author and the publisher, instead of contracting for % of total items sold, it would need to be a flat sum, with the understanding that once their product gets on the internet, it is no longer manageable in terms of restricting use. Or, the publisher or author need to open a website  and for a flat fee for the consumer, the items can be downloaded and distributed and the fee for the sites be divided between the author and the publisher. People pay to purchase the means to read the books ( priced from $50-$250), then they have to pay upwards of $12.95 and more to then purchase a book, Barnes and Noble had to know that by creating the Nook books that it would severely impact the sales of paper books, especially with the level of advertisement the used  to sell the Nooks. no different with the I Pad, the Kindle, etc etc Making it a law to prosecute those who download books for free  would be declaring war on most of America , then how would they handle it when the sites are located outside of the US and the downloaders are out of the US, they certainly can't prosecute them.  This is an issue that was created by corporations and companies wanting to make a quick buck by selling electronic devices, did they not think that this would be a result of their action??I think the US govt really has issues that are far more important to the welfare and reparation of the country than spending time going after people who are downloading books, reading, expanding their knowledge base and in the process doing no harm to anyone. I would rather my kids download free books that they will read and discover new authors and learn about new things, than inappropriate or other morally and socially corrupt material.

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Re: Open discussion inviting all the users regarding ebook sharing
« Reply #136 on: March 16, 2012, 08:57 PM »
Just a general comment about ebook sharing. If DRM could be removed by publishers there may be more people buying books instead of downloading them from the internet. 

When I buy a book, I'm restricted as to where I can read it (only on the publishers' reading device or on my computer - with limitations in regards to screen background color, font, size, etc.).  Whereas if I download the same book from a filesharing website; it's free and I have the freedom/flexibility to read it on any reading device I own or on my computer where I can convert it and read it on my notepad, microsoft word document, etc.)

I know DRM was installed on books, initially, to prevent illegal sharing but as most people can install plugins on Calibre to remove the DRM lock (for free), it's ultimately encouraging those who don't know how to install the plugins to download books instead of buying them.

If authors can encourage publishers to stop locking ebooks with DRM, maybe more people (myself included) will buy their books. I'm from the United States.

(Thank you for having an author opt-out list.  It's nice of you to consider both the readers and the authors. :)
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Re: Open discussion inviting all the users regarding ebook sharing
« Reply #137 on: March 31, 2012, 06:21 AM »
the reason I like this site is that a lot of authors I find on goodreads for example aren´t avaliable in my country...A lot of the times I can´t even buy them on amazon because Im from the wrong country... and what the hell difference does it make if I download it in us or sweden???and those I can buy are often in kindle edition so I have to transfer them into epub to be able to read them and I only do that if I know I really like the athor because I have done it before and it didnt work so I payed for a book I couldn´t even read

And it really pisses me of when it says that I can´t even give the e-book away...I bought it! I should be able to do with it what ever I wan´t just like I can with a paperback...often the ebook cost as much as the paperback also...and thats another thing that ticks me

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Re: Open discussion inviting all the users regarding ebook sharing
« Reply #138 on: April 11, 2012, 01:28 PM »
i found this site because i went to my local book store to buy a book and they didn't have it. so i decided to search the internet for it and i found this site. i have to say this is one of the better sites for sharing ebooks because i dont see any other site having in Author Opt Out list or even caring that the author does not want 2 share their work. I still buy books just like im sure many other people on this site still buy books as well. My library has grown with alot of new authors that i probably would never have heard of if it wasn't for this site. i like this site because many people here share my love for reading. i don't know if there will ever be a solution for ebook sharing, but what i do know is this site is one of the only site's who actually cares about finding a solution for author's and readers.

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Re: Open discussion inviting all the users regarding ebook sharing
« Reply #139 on: April 11, 2012, 01:41 PM »
This is an interesting topic in light of the fact that the U.S. Department of Justice is charging Apple and several major publishers for price fixing ebooks.


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Re: Open discussion inviting all the users regarding ebook sharing
« Reply #140 on: April 25, 2012, 08:36 AM »
I found this website when looking for an author I had never heard of before.

I do wish that the law would change for ebooks. I buy masses of books/ebooks second hand via eBay or charity shops. I also donate books when finished with them.

As I love reading I seem to download author freebies on twitter rather a lot and discover new authors all the time.

« Last Edit: April 25, 2012, 08:39 AM by Mmisscee »

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