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Thread #6 - We are crazy talkers here! Join in the fun!

ADULT DISCUSSION HERE, SO TRY TO KEEP IT CLEAN! UM NO, WAIT! IF YOU ARE EASILY OFFENDED, LOOK AWAY NOW! 

This is the new thread as the other was sooo long and had lots of pages. Continuation of our wonderful discussions on Twilight Fanfiction, Books, and Life in general.  But mostly Twilight fanfics... and life stuff that will get me a NOT ALLOWED statement. 

Okay, here is a place to discuss what you are reading, ask for recommendations and complain about the writing.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion, so please play nice   

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Totally forgot that the hardware store was a sporting goods store :-[ :-[ , you would of thought after such a major change I would remember this.   :D :D
I know,  really!  How could you confuse the two LOL! 

Well, the original would be a sporting goods store on to keep with canon. But frankly? I can't see Bella working at either.  :) 
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I read FSOG but not MoTU as it was the former that brought m to five in the first place.....I don't think I'm going to bother with MoTU now, too much water under the bridge.

Loops, I'm not sure I'm strong enough to re-live Dusty again. I've been busy so I've not had a chance to read much and he's only 13 at the moment.....God! I'm not  sure I can do it!
Seriously Hun if you've read one you've read both so I wouldn't worry about it.  :)
I felt the same way when I started reading Innocents too but just like the fic it sucks you in whether you like. Or not.  :D :D
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I know,  really!  How could you confuse the two LOL! 

Well, the original would be a sporting goods store on to keep with canon. But frankly? I can't see Bella working at either.  :) 
Lol, I can't see Bella working anywhere really as she's quite anti sociable (unless you're a Cullen of course) and that doesn't help in most jobs.  :P :P
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Hmmmm ok I am definately going to move it up.

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MoTU actually had a good story that was worth reading. And pretty hot lemons. There was a reason FSOG sold so well.   

I normally have a backup of my library. So I copy it to where I want my new library- say the portable drive - then using the books logo button, Switch/create library, browse to it, and select the button that says use the previously existing library at the new location. 

Otherwise, you have to re add the column and assign it to description in the ffdl configure custom columns. 

Let me know if that doesn't work.  ;)
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Seriously Hun if you've read one you've read both so I wouldn't worry about it.
I would agree with this.  They really are the same.   :P
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I would agree with this.  They really are the same.   :P

Which makes me laugh when those completely against Twilight, and think FF is lame, argue that FSoG & MOTU are two separate stories!

I think it would blow people's minds if they knew how many books were actually FF stories first before being published.
 
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I'm laughing with you.  Over on InDeath.net, it drives us crazy when we tell a member (particularly people that hate Twilight) that FSoG is the published version of the fanfic MoTU and the response is "I don't see any resemblance to Twilight".  We had a huge argument with them in the FSoG thread (that originally started out as 3 different but related threads and we finally combined them).  What don't you get people?   It was a Twilight fic originally - all she did was change the names and publish it.   One of our Polish members just read Wallbanger and I mentioned that it was originally a Twilight fanfic Edward Wallbanger - she had also read FSoG.   She still doesn't get the difference.  One other person responded to her reply that she didn't like the trend of Twilight fics being published as original fiction.   We ended up giving up.   Even when you point out all the similarities (character wise or otherwise) to MoTU/FSoG, they stubbornly insist that we are overreacting and wrong.   One of our troublemakers (no longer on site) had evidently not read the whole FSoG thread because she made the mistake of being indignant and responding that Nora (Roberts) should sue E.L. James because she so obviously ripped off Nora on the InDeath series.  I simply said "Why should Nora sue?  It was originally a Twilight fanfic.  If anyone should sue it should be Stephanie Meyer.  Why don't you go back and read the whole thread."   The response I got back was a meek "Okay".  This also happened to be the member who invented a whole bunch of "socks" to do reviews for her InDeath fanfic and to defend her on the forum when we disagreed with her - one of her "supporters" would appear and start accusing us of being mean to jlk.   
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Which makes me laugh when those completely against Twilight, and think FF is lame, argue that FSoG & MOTU are two separate stories!

I think it would blow people's minds if they knew how many books were actually FF stories first before being published.

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I'm laughing with you.  Over on InDeath.net, it drives us crazy when we tell a member (particularly people that hate Twilight) that FSoG is the published version of the fanfic MoTU and the response is "I don't see any resemblance to Twilight".  We had a huge argument with them in the FSoG thread (that originally started out as 3 different but related threads and we finally combined them).  What don't you get people?   It was a Twilight fic originally - all she did was change the names and publish it.   One of our Polish members just read Wallbanger and I mentioned that it was originally a Twilight fanfic Edward Wallbanger - she had also read FSoG.   She still doesn't get the difference.  One other person responded to her reply that she didn't like the trend of Twilight fics being published as original fiction.   We ended up giving up.   Even when you point out all the similarities (character wise or otherwise) to MoTU/FSoG, they stubbornly insist that we are overreacting and wrong.   One of our troublemakers (no longer on site) had evidently not read the whole FSoG thread because she made the mistake of being indignant and responding that Nora (Roberts) should sue E.L. James because she so obviously ripped off Nora on the InDeath series.  I simply said "Why should Nora sue?  It was originally a Twilight fanfic.  If anyone should sue it should be Stephanie Meyer.  Why don't you go back and read the whole thread."   The response I got back was a meek "Okay".  This also happened to be the member who invented a whole bunch of "socks" to do reviews for her InDeath fanfic and to defend her on the forum when we disagreed with her - one of her "supporters" would appear and start accusing us of being mean to jlk.

I don't understand some people. Why make a big deal about fanfics if the owner of the real book didn't take legal actions? The pulled to pub fanfics mentioned are so different from Twilight and can't really be called plagiarism. At this point, if the fanfic becomes published, the only issue should be whether it is worth our money to buy it. And that issue applies to ALL published books. Who cares if it was a fanfic first, as long as it is a good story that brings reading pleasure to people.

Now, it is a different story when these fanfic writers have the gall to threaten people for sharing copies of their fanfic when they decided to publish. Such morons! You gave it away for free! On the internet! Live with it!
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Which makes me laugh when those completely against Twilight, and think FF is lame, argue that FSoG & MOTU are two separate stories!

I think it would blow people's minds if they knew how many books were actually FF stories first before being published.
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I'm laughing with you.  Over on InDeath.net, it drives us crazy when we tell a member (particularly people that hate Twilight) that FSoG is the published version of the fanfic MoTU and the response is "I don't see any resemblance to Twilight".  We had a huge argument with them in the FSoG thread (that originally started out as 3 different but related threads and we finally combined them).  What don't you get people?   It was a Twilight fic originally - all she did was change the names and publish it.   One of our Polish members just read Wallbanger and I mentioned that it was originally a Twilight fanfic Edward Wallbanger - she had also read FSoG.   She still doesn't get the difference.  One other person responded to her reply that she didn't like the trend of Twilight fics being published as original fiction.   We ended up giving up.   Even when you point out all the similarities (character wise or otherwise) to MoTU/FSoG, they stubbornly insist that we are overreacting and wrong.   One of our troublemakers (no longer on site) had evidently not read the whole FSoG thread because she made the mistake of being indignant and responding that Nora (Roberts) should sue E.L. James because she so obviously ripped off Nora on the InDeath series.  I simply said "Why should Nora sue?  It was originally a Twilight fanfic.  If anyone should sue it should be Stephanie Meyer.  Why don't you go back and read the whole thread."   The response I got back was a meek "Okay".  This also happened to be the member who invented a whole bunch of "socks" to do reviews for her InDeath fanfic and to defend her on the forum when we disagreed with her - one of her "supporters" would appear and start accusing us of being mean to jlk.

Forget about MoTU; when I read FSOG I knew absolutely nothing about Fanfiction, nada! And I read that story and thought someone is trying to plagiarise SM's Twilight, the plot might be different but the characterisation is EXACTLY the same, not similar, identical. So even if you've never read a single Twific but have read twilight you'd have to ask yourself, 'WTF?' Anyone who says differently clearly have never read Twilight. I was seriously getting ready to report E L James for theft; I powered up my computer, stuck the title into Google, and the rest, as they say, is history
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Forget about MoTU; when I read FSOG I knew absolutely nothing about Fanfiction, nada! And I read that story and thought someone is trying to plagiarise SM's Twilight, the plot might be different but the characterisation is EXACTLY the same, not similar, identical. So even if you've never read a single Twific but have read twilight you'd have to ask yourself, 'WTF?' Anyone who says differently clearly have never read Twilight. I was seriously getting ready to report E L James for theft; I powered up my computer, stuck the title into Google, and the rest, as they say, is history

 I am so not a connoisseur of books, characterization etc.  :P As long as i enjoyed the story, that's good enough for me. I guess because i read so many books that have similar plots or storylines, i don't really think much beyond "that was a really good book/writer" or "meh".  ;D :D
 
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I am so not a connoisseur of books, characterization etc.  :P As long as i enjoyed the story, that's good enough for me. I guess because i read so many books that have similar plots or storylines, i don't really think much beyond "that was a really good book/writer" or "meh".  ;D :D

Unfortunately it's my job to be vigilant about stuff like that, pain but necessary; now I can't ever read like a normal person
 
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I don't understand some people. Why make a big deal about fanfics if the owner of the real book didn't take legal actions? The pulled to pub fanfics mentioned are so different from Twilight and can't really be called plagiarism. At this point, if the fanfic becomes published, the only issue should be whether it is worth our money to buy it. And that issue applies to ALL published books. Who cares if it was a fanfic first, as long as it is a good story that brings reading pleasure to people.

Now, it is a different story when these fanfic writers have the gall to threaten people for sharing copies of their fanfic when they decided to publish. Such morons! You gave it away for free! On the internet! Live with it!

I bolded the part that means the most to me. Why in the hell would I pay money for something if they only changed the names and locations? I can read the same thing here, for free. If they put in the effort and actually EDIT the thing, then I'm more willing to shell out the dough, IF enough people that I trust let me know there have been significant improvements. Unfortunately, that very rarely happens, usually it's just a basic name and location change.
 
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I am so not a connoisseur of books, characterization etc.  :P As long as i enjoyed the story, that's good enough for me. I guess because i read so many books that have similar plots or storylines, i don't really think much beyond "that was a really good book/writer" or "meh". 

I can totally relate, this is how I am!!  8)
 
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I bolded the part that means the most to me. Why in the hell would I pay money for something if they only changed the names and locations? I can read the same thing here, for free. If they put in the effort and actually EDIT the thing, then I'm more willing to shell out the dough, IF enough people that I trust let me know there have been significant improvements. Unfortunately, that very rarely happens, usually it's just a basic name and location change.

See? Now here is the dilemma. I'm sitting reading published Dusty, it is pretty much the same as the FF, it's been edited, because the FF is hella long but it is, so far, very much the same story...If I were to ask myself why I went ahead and bought these books, when I'd already read the FF, (something I never do, if I've read the FF first), the reply wouldn't make a great deal of sense. It'll have nothing to do with whether it was well edited (there are still a few typos I'm afraid) or changed significantly, nothing to do with story, location or characters and everything to do with the way FF Dusty changed, for better or worse, the way I looked and felt about Twifics, Twilight Fan Fiction has never really been the same since the day I finished this story, the first time.....Its just a fact, I live with it. I still read FF, as I'm a junkie, but, if I'm being totally honest, I'm over it. I spent the money and bought these books as an acknowledgement to the authors of that change; for all their hard work, their talent, and their perseverance, (I'm sure more fics are abandoned than completed on FFN). Positive reviews are amazing but I'm sure kerching is better. Its the least I could give back to them to show my appreciation; it's personal.
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See? Now here is the dilemma. I'm sitting reading published Dusty, it is pretty much the same as the FF, it's been edited, because the FF is hella long but it is, so far, very much the same story...If I were to ask myself why I went ahead and bought these books, when I'd already read the FF, which I never do, if I've read the FF first, the reply wouldn't make a great deal of sense. It'll have nothing to do with whether it was well edited (there are still a few typos I'm afraid) or changed significantly, nothing to do with story, location or characters and everything to do with the way FF Dusty changed, for better or worse, the way I looked and felt about Twifics, Twilight Fan Fiction has never really been the same since the day I finished that story, the first time.....Its just a fact, I live with it. I still read FF, as I'm a junkie, but, if I'm honest, I'm over it. I spent the money and bought these book as an acknowledgement to the authors of that change, for all their hard work, their talent, and their perseverance, (I'm sure more fics are abandoned than completed on FFN). Positive reviews are amazing but I'm sure kerching is better. Its the least I could do give back to them and show my appreciation, it's personal.

I haven't read it yet, but I did pick up the pubbed version of Clipped Wings Inked Armor based on how much I loved the fic. I'm sure I'll read it eventually, but right now, I'm still pretty hard core into Sterek fics, plus I'm reading a LONG ass Harry Potter fic, lol.
 
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I haven't read it yet, but I did pick up the pubbed version of Clipped Wings Inked Armor based on how much I loved the fic. I'm sure I'll read it eventually, but right now, I'm still pretty hard core into Sterek fics, plus I'm reading a LONG ass Harry Potter fic, lol.
I've been trying to figure out what "Sterek" is, I've failed. :)

How's the HP one? I've yet to venture into HP fics... I have the HP/Twilight cross over someone rec'd to me, but nothing else.
 
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I've been trying to figure out what "Sterek" is, I've failed. :)

How's the HP one? I've yet to venture into HP fics... I have the HP/Twilight cross over someone rec'd to me, but nothing else.

Sterek is Teen Wolf fic about the characters Stiles and Derek. :)
 
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I've been trying to figure out what "Sterek" is, I've failed. :)

How's the HP one? I've yet to venture into HP fics... I have the HP/Twilight cross over someone rec'd to me, but nothing else.

I have read 1 HP/Twilight cross over and really enjoyed. Does any have any that they can rec?
 
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Did you read the one I left the link for 3 pages or so back Tricklem - It was a New Moon Edward in South America after leaving Bella in the woods and who he ran into in a "bar" (for inhuman beings) who advised him to go back to Bella?  I don't want to give away who it is but he's from Buffy the Vampire Slayer.  Its probably at least 6 pages back by now.  I'm going to have to look for it at this point.  It was a one shot that had the potential for a few more chapters. 

Found it - Encounter by O2Shay - I had to remember where I actually read it - which didn't take long - Crossover category on Twilighted.


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Who cares if it was a fanfic first, as long as it is a good story that brings reading pleasure to people.

I read some fanfics that were original fiction first, but the author changed them to twilight fanfic in order to get a bigger audience (only there were a few names she forgot to change, which was confusing at first) but I still enjoyed reading them.
 
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OK, so book 3 is literally white noise, its a 'nothing' book. Contrived angst, (
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and both characters are now just annoying, JH has turned into such a needy f*ck it's a huge turn off and way, way, way, way too many lemons. I'd go so far as to say that every sentence wrote that is not a lemon is written to lead the reader from one lemon to another. 2** ( and I'm being generous)
I wondered if book 3 would be crap.  It was all nicely wrapped up with the second one, or so I thought so I've just never had an interest in reading the third one.    I'm going to take this one off my TBR list

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Kim do remember when King called it Dizzy? We had a great laugh at her expense about that, well I've been winding her up again about it as she was asking about Dusty :P :P :D :D[/b]
LOL yes, I remember Dizzy!   Funny stuff!   :D

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I read FSOG but not MoTU as it was the former that brought m to five in the first place.....I don't think I'm going to bother with MoTU now, too much water under the bridge.

Loops, I'm not sure I'm strong enough to re-live Dusty again. I've been busy so I've not had a chance to read much and he's only 13 at the moment.....God! I'm not  sure I can do it!
FSoG was one of the ones that brought me to fanfiction too...    Actually, Gabriel's Inferno too!  I loved both of those soo much that I knew I had to figure out what all this FF was about.  I'd never really even heard about it before.

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Forget about MoTU; when I read FSOG I knew absolutely nothing about Fanfiction, nada! And I read that story and thought someone is trying to plagiarise SM's Twilight, the plot might be different but the characterisation is EXACTLY the same, not similar, identical. So even if you've never read a single Twific but have read twilight you'd have to ask yourself, 'WTF?' Anyone who says differently clearly have never read Twilight. I was seriously getting ready to report E L James for theft; I powered up my computer, stuck the title into Google, and the rest, as they say, is history
You know, I'd read Twilight several times but when I read FSoG it never crossed my mind that they were related.   Looking back I can obviously see it in the characters now, but at the time I didn't.   It was the first "adult" book I'd ever read though, so I was so shocked by some of the stuff in the book that they could have probably used the names Ed & Bell and I still wouldn't have noticed.   :D
 
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