Author Topic: Flounced Fics (Twilight fanfiction) (Read 281239 times)

Matron · « **on:** January 14, 2013, 04:02 PM »

Ok folks, list em here. Fics that you have flounced, and why you flounced them. Help keep others apprised of the good, the bad, and the badly edited.

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Loopy · « **Reply #461 on:** March 24, 2013, 08:29 AM »

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Edward can rape Bella and it will be ok.

It happened in Knicnort3's You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login - I think apart from her "Blue Lagoon" this is the only other fic of her's I flounced and that was coz of the whole rape thing.

VTmom · « **Reply #462 on:** March 25, 2013, 06:10 PM »

I can't name specific ones, because if I flounce 'em I try to forget them!

But I can tell you why I'll flounce ...

When the spelling, homophones and heterographs become distracting I will flounce. Over-use of "whilst" will send me screaming to the hills.

When the Cullens come sweeping in and make everything better with their convenient unlimited funds, a la Judith Krantz's "sex & shopping" writing style.

When Edward becomes Stalkerward (worse than canon even, that was creepy enough) when he knows that Bella is not his mate. Unrelenting Jacob weirds me out too.

When the story becomes petty; let's use Edward/Alice/Jasper's gifts to gratuitously screw-over twits from high school.

When the plot gets lost because writing about different places and ways to have sex becomes more important - smut is awesome - in moderation.

griddy · « **Reply #463 on:** March 27, 2013, 11:41 PM »

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When the Cullens come sweeping in and make everything better with their convenient unlimited funds, a la Judith Krantz's "sex & shopping" writing style.
When the story becomes petty; let's use Edward/Alice/Jasper's gifts to gratuitously screw-over twits from high school.

Well said!
I have a pretty open mind when it comes to books. I tend to be more forgiving with fanfic since, most authors are inexperienced, but willing to takes risks with taboo topics. Inexperience does not mean I am willing to stomach a shallow or immature world view.

Subversive topics don't bother me. How the subject matter is dealt with lets me know if it will be a good read, or just skeevy.

What makes me flounce like my grammy's ruched curtains is when the story includes things like rape simply to add angst. I can't count count the number of times Bella has been raped and two chapters later, it's a fade to black, and not even a blip on her and Edward's emotional radar. Oh yayz. Itz all good now.

It's not about research, but about the author's emotional IQ. The idea might be good one and draw me in, but if they lack the savvy, it ends up like a Victorian finger wagging 'life lessons' tall tale, with added sex and violence. Kind of like Bollywood TV.

Yes, the characters can be terrible and do bad things, and the plot dark and the road to ruin apparent,

but I want to know the writer can deal with the complex subject matter, and not just exploit it and then 'magically' fix it.

Since when did money, marriage and babies make anyone's problems magically better? Haven't they watched Teen Mom?

I can usually tell by how the characters interact with each other as to the state of maturity in the author. Does Bella hate all other women in the story (except for rich, beautiful and perfect Esme?) Do they find themselves rich without effort? If yes, chances are the story will not going to hold its liquor or drippy panties.

Here's an excerpt from a very popular story, and yes, Bella hates ALL the female characters. (I only got half way before I flounced.)

In this delightful and exciting scene, Edward's bodyguard has wrestled a drunk Mike off Bella (Mike licked her neck and yes, she had a right to feel threatened). Bodyguard Alex has completely subdued Mike and has also threatened his life, but Bella has a better idea:

I was a little scared Alec was really going to kill [Mike]. I tried to calm myself down and moved back toward Alec, putting my hand on his arm.
"Alec, it's okay. Don't hurt him. I just want to leave."
Alec shoved Mike once more before backing off. Mike dropped to the ground like a sack of potatoes, gasping for air. I strode forward, kicking him hard in the groin, and smiled at the sound of his shrieking groan. Alec grabbed my elbow and led me back toward the driveway before I could cause any more damage.

Charming little vixen, no? He started it, so it's okay, even though he's on the ground from his thrashing from Alex, right?

I guess this proves Bella is tots bad-add, and no one can tell her what to do, except for Edward, because he easily buys her with a contract and most importantly, he's very rich and just happens to be old.

Never mind the lemons are pretty awkward (virgin w screaming orgasms, natch) just listen for the reason Edward justifies buying an 18 year-old. Edward's ex-wife cheated on him, so he believes guying a young girl will stop this terrible, terrible pain from ever happening again to his delightful self

Edward explains his tragic ordeal:
"[Kate, my long term and serious live-in girlfriend] came to me one day, scared and crying. I was freaked out and did everything I could think of to calm her down. When she finally told me she was pregnant, I was actually happy and excited. I held her, told her everything would be great, assured her we could get married immediately. Even though it wasn't planned, I was ecstatic. I went out the next day and bought her a huge engagement ring and rushed home to surprise her." [...] "I surprised her all right," he said sarcastically. "I walked in to find her NOT ALLOWED my best friend, Jake."

Holy shit! I wanted to kill both of them even if I didn't know them. [Yes, Bella has many instantaneous witty and mature reactions to just about everything. Such a 'spunky' gal. ]

"It got ugly. I'd never felt so betrayed in my life. The two best friends I had in the world fucked me over at the same time. In the worst way." He paused and took a couple shuddering breaths. "She then went and had an abortion without even talking to me beforehand. She just did it and told me a couple weeks later when she came to get her things out of my house. It came out like she was telling me she cancelled a credit card. Like it was nothing. Like it meant nothing. She killed our baby so she and Jake could be together. It...it shattered me."
(Bella has the 'trying not to laugh' sobs, at her good fortune)
I tried to hold back the sob in my throat, but I couldn't stop the tears. The pain in his voice was so overwhelming, and I wanted nothing more than to ease it. I threw myself on top of him, hugging his body as hard as I could. "I'm so sorry, Edward." There were no other words I could find to comfort him. What could I say? It was no wonder he didn't trust anybody. If I ever saw those assholes, Kate or Jake, I would rip them apart with my own hands.

This silly sobfest passing for Edward's character motivation makes no sense.

If Kate is having an affair, why is he assuming the baby is 'his'?
I would think Kate would have the kid to keep her hand in Edward's deep pockets, since later she reappears as a conniving gold digger. Even weirder, Kate is still with her lover, Jake, so why is Kate getting this smushshmortion?

Ohhhhh.... because that makes Kate a SUPER evil bad girlfriend, and self evidently deserving of being killed by Bella's brave and bare hands (with the exception of the giant diamond Edward bought for Bella's engagement/slavery).

The moral to this tragedy? Ex-gf bad, Bella goooood. Edward is forced to buy a wife (who happens to be eighteen, natch) to ensure she won't cheat and to make sure she will have 'his' baby. Awwwwwwww!!!!

I'm thinking: Old Rich Edward is out of touch and obvi hasn't heard of the Kardashians.

Can you guess the fic?
No Ordinary Proposal by twilover76
Bella wants to escape her small-town life and live her dreams in New York. What happens when a man almost twice her age makes her an offer she can't refuse? AH/M
Rated: Fiction M - English - Romance/Drama - Bella & Edward - Chapters: 35 - Words: 153,932 - Reviews: 9,015 - Favs: 4,591 - Follows: 5,962 - Updated: 10-23-12 - Published: 05-06-12 - Status: Complete - id: 8092082
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Yes, high reviews, but you guyz know by now about the standard 'posses' helping out their 'friend' the author, right?
Don't let the 'review' numbers fool you.

Scroll through the reviews and you can usually spot the pattern, often by chapter. If there are huge blocks of Guests and them the usual friend, followed by a set of her 'socks' (who only fave this story) , all gasping hilariously delirious praise, you can easily see they are obviously concocted and planted.
Uh, it's been around for a long while.
It's so common, even the 'good' authors do it now. That's show biznizz.
Trust your BS meter, ladies. griddy.

Ps Looove the reviews so far: I have to say I agree with everyone's critiques so far.

robsten143 · « **Reply #464 on:** March 28, 2013, 03:16 AM »

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Well said!
I have a pretty open mind when it comes to books. I tend to be more forgiving with fanfic since, most authors are inexperienced, but willing to takes risks with taboo topics. Inexperience does not mean I am willing to stomach a shallow or immature world view.

Subversive topics don't bother me. How the subject matter is dealt with lets me know if it will be a good read, or just skeevy.

What makes me flounce like my grammy's ruched curtains is when the story includes things like rape simply to add angst. I can't count count the number of times Bella has been raped and two chapters later, it's a fade to black, and not even a blip on her and Edward's emotional radar. Oh yayz. Itz all good now.

It's not about research, but about the author's emotional IQ. The idea might be good one and draw me in, but if they lack the savvy, it ends up like a Victorian finger wagging 'life lessons' tall tale, with added sex and violence. Kind of like Bollywood TV.

Yes, the characters can be terrible and do bad things, and the plot dark and the road to ruin apparent, but I want to know the writer can deal with the complex subject matter, and not just exploit it and then 'magically' fix it.

Since when did money, marriage and babies make anyone's problems magically better? Haven't they watched Teen Mom?

I can usually tell by how the characters interact with each other as to the state of maturity in the author. Does Bella hate all other women in the story (except for rich, beautiful and perfect Esme?) Do they find themselves rich without effort? If yes, chances are the story will not going to hold its liquor or drippy panties.

Here's an excerpt from a very popular story, and yes, Bella hates ALL the female characters. (I only got half way before I flounced.)

In this delightful and exciting scene, Edward's bodyguard has wrestled a drunk Mike off Bella (Mike licked her neck and yes, she had a right to feel threatened). Bodyguard Alex has completely subdued Mike and has also threatened his life, but Bella has a better idea:

I was a little scared Alec was really going to kill [Mike]. I tried to calm myself down and moved back toward Alec, putting my hand on his arm.
"Alec, it's okay. Don't hurt him. I just want to leave."
Alec shoved Mike once more before backing off. Mike dropped to the ground like a sack of potatoes, gasping for air. I strode forward, kicking him hard in the groin, and smiled at the sound of his shrieking groan. Alec grabbed my elbow and led me back toward the driveway before I could cause any more damage.

Charming little vixen, no? He started it, so it's okay, even though he's on the ground from his thrashing from Alex, right?
I guess this proves Bella is tots bad-add, and no one can tell her what to do, except for Edward, because he easily buys her with a contract and most importantly, he's very rich and just happens to be old.

Never mind the lemons are pretty awkward (virgin w screaming orgasms, natch) just listen for the reason Edward justifies buying an 18 year-old. Edward's ex-wife cheated on him, so he believes guying a young girl will stop this terrible, terrible pain from ever happening again to his delightful self

Edward explains his tragic ordeal:
"[Kate, my long term and serious live-in girlfriend] came to me one day, scared and crying. I was freaked out and did everything I could think of to calm her down. When she finally told me she was pregnant, I was actually happy and excited. I held her, told her everything would be great, assured her we could get married immediately. Even though it wasn't planned, I was ecstatic. I went out the next day and bought her a huge engagement ring and rushed home to surprise her." [...] "I surprised her all right," he said sarcastically. "I walked in to find her NOT ALLOWED my best friend, Jake."

Holy shit! I wanted to kill both of them even if I didn't know them. [Yes, Bella has many instantaneous witty and mature reactions to just about everything. Such a 'spunky' gal. ]

"It got ugly. I'd never felt so betrayed in my life. The two best friends I had in the world fucked me over at the same time. In the worst way." He paused and took a couple shuddering breaths. "She then went and had an abortion without even talking to me beforehand. She just did it and told me a couple weeks later when she came to get her things out of my house. It came out like she was telling me she cancelled a credit card. Like it was nothing. Like it meant nothing. She killed our baby so she and Jake could be together. It...it shattered me."
(Bella has the 'trying not to laugh' sobs, at her good fortune)
I tried to hold back the sob in my throat, but I couldn't stop the tears. The pain in his voice was so overwhelming, and I wanted nothing more than to ease it. I threw myself on top of him, hugging his body as hard as I could. "I'm so sorry, Edward." There were no other words I could find to comfort him. What could I say? It was no wonder he didn't trust anybody. If I ever saw those assholes, Kate or Jake, I would rip them apart with my own hands.

This silly sobfest passing for Edward's character motivation makes no sense.
If Kate is having an affair, why is he assuming the baby is 'his'?
I would think Kate would have the kid to keep her hand in Edward's deep pockets, since later she reappears as a conniving gold digger. Even weirder, Kate is still with her lover, Jake, so why is Kate getting this smushshmortion?

Ohhhhh.... because that makes Kate a SUPER evil bad girlfriend, and self evidently deserving of being killed by Bella's brave and bare hands (with the exception of the giant diamond Edward bought for Bella's engagement/slavery).

The moral to this tragedy? Ex-gf bad, Bella goooood. Edward is forced to buy a wife (who happens to be eighteen, natch) to ensure she won't cheat and to make sure she will have 'his' baby. Awwwwwwww!!!!

I'm thinking: Old Rich Edward is out of touch and obvi hasn't heard of the Kardashians.

Can you guess the fic?
No Ordinary Proposal by twilover76
Bella wants to escape her small-town life and live her dreams in New York. What happens when a man almost twice her age makes her an offer she can't refuse? AH/M
Rated: Fiction M - English - Romance/Drama - Bella & Edward - Chapters: 35 - Words: 153,932 - Reviews: 9,015 - Favs: 4,591 - Follows: 5,962 - Updated: 10-23-12 - Published: 05-06-12 - Status: Complete - id: 8092082
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Yes, high reviews, but you guyz know by now about the standard 'posses' helping out their 'friend' the author, right?
Don't let the 'review' numbers fool you.

Scroll through the reviews and you can usually spot the pattern, often by chapter. If there are huge blocks of Guests and them the usual friend, followed by a set of her 'socks' (who only fave this story) , all gasping hilariously delirious praise, you can easily see they are obviously concocted and planted.
Uh, it's been around for a long while.
It's so common, even the 'good' authors do it now. That's show biznizz.
Trust your BS meter, ladies. griddy.

Ps Looove the reviews so far: I have to say I agree with everyone's critiques so far.

Griddy, i couldn't agree with you more about ever single thing you said...I agree about No ordinary proposal.. I had bookmarked this one when it was WIP but later I just lost interest and i never finished it. Yes it has so many ohhhh ahhhaaa reviews. But author wrote everything what her readers wants to read. Nothing new.When 18 year old bella marry 35+ edward than her bestie alice becomes all mommy-daddy over edward with questioning but when she herself start relationship with 35+ jasper its supposed to be okay.and breaking news Jasper has GF but as soon as he meet alice he dumped his GF for her.So original.. And Rosaile work for edward but she never met emmet and she is just his employee but as soon as bella comes in pictures, em-rose start their sex bantering in first meeting & suddenly rose is hanging out in her boss's house .Seriously WTF. You know i don't give shit about any other character except edward-bella but these other characters matchmaking for the sake of cannon and such childish way is so immature.

WTH is 38 yr old edward marrying 18 yr bella with contract because he had evil GF.

And edward parents are completely cool with their nearly 40 yr old son got married to barely HS pass girl.Edward's parents and friends are not that important in edward's life because he didn't invited them in wedding.But in blink of eye they are playing all happy family together.

afterall Person can take enough nonsense & half baked characters in 1 story.

as you said

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It's so common, even the 'good' authors do it now. That's show biznizz.

That is biggest reason I flounced 80% time story withing 2 chapters. I miss old days when 2 & half year back i started reading FF. I used to wish for 50 hour per day because i had so many good stories to read & very little time. sometimes i feel like i read every good stories i can find in fandom.

S. · « **Reply #465 on:** March 28, 2013, 03:34 AM »

Griddy! I love you girl!

You just wrote what I think but I didn't know how to put into words.
I can't read olderward stories where he is 30+ and he buys Bella with gifts and the promise of repaying her loan for school. I don't like olderward storied and I noticed that a lot of people who read are either virgins or have problems with their father. I'm not saying that all of these people but those who I know from FB and I know they love reading about 40 yo dude banging barely 18 yo girl.

S. · « **Reply #466 on:** March 28, 2013, 06:06 AM »

About stories with rape.
I couldn't read this one:
Comes & Goes by AlexaET
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Bella was raped twice (I'm not sure if once or twice because I flounced this shit a long time ago) and she is pregnant with her rapist. Of course she keeps the baby and Edward is so sweet and fluffy and they both loves this baby and she saw therapist a few times and everything is ok. I don't know what the woman who was raped feels but certainly it's not something that you forget after a month or two. If someone wants to write about rape maybe it's better to do some research first and not write about it like it's something normal and after which you can move on with your life. I'm not saying that you have to have an abortion but I couldn't look at a child that was created from rape. I remember that when she wrote this chapter where Bella said she wants to keep the baby a lot of people disagreed with this decision. I also wrote her signed review (not nasty) and she deleted it and said in A/N that there was a lot of nast comments and she had to disable anonymous reviews. No word about removing reviews not supporting her idea. It's her story and she can write whatever she wants but let it be real and not be treated lightly just because it is ff.

deranged_dreamer · « **Reply #467 on:** March 28, 2013, 06:11 AM »

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About stories with rape.
I couldn't read this one:
Comes & Goes by AlexaET
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Bella was raped twice (I'm not sure if once or twice because I flounced this shit a long time ago) and she is pregnant with her rapist. Of course she keeps the baby and Edward is so sweet and fluffy and they both loves this baby and she saw therapist a few times and everything is ok. I don't know what the woman who was raped feels but certainly it's not something that you forget after a month or two. If someone wants to write about rape maybe it's better to do some research first and not write about it like it's something normal and after which you can move on with your life. I'm not saying that you have to have an abortion but I couldn't look at a child that was created from rape. I remember that when she wrote this chapter where Bella said she wants to keep the baby a lot of people disagreed with this decision. I also wrote her signed review (not nasty) and she deleted it and said in A/N that there was a lot of nast comments and she had to disable anonymous reviews. No word about removing reviews not supporting her idea. It's her story and she can write whatever she wants but let it be real and not be treated lightly just because it is ff.

i flounced that as well.how much bad luck can one person have?

Ellachanted · « **Reply #468 on:** March 28, 2013, 06:53 AM »

I liked No Ordinary Proposal. Yeah, it's got a bit of a stupid premise. But so do half the stories I read. And I've read a number of 38/18 stories when I used to read harlequins. So not too unusual.

I do agree on stories with rape just to add angst. That really bothers me. And I usually won't read them.

griddy · « **Reply #469 on:** March 28, 2013, 07:53 AM »

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About stories with rape. I couldn't read this one: Comes & Goes by AlexaET
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It's her story and she can write whatever she wants but let it be real and not be treated lightly just because it is ff.

I think all writers should be able to write about any subject without censorship. I hate FanFiction's censorship is aimed at women's writing by a posse of insiders who work as administrators, and are all men, who make misogynistic comments on their forums about our Twilight community. Over 8000+ stories have been removed to date.

I also believe in the power of flouncing, if it isn't your cup a tea. We look weakest when we attack each other.

That said, I also insist that if an author addresses a touchy topic, they cannot take these freedoms lightly. Writing under a anonymous pen name does not grant you a cone of silence, free from public reaction.

If you want that, write in your diary and leave it off your opinions from public forums. Yes, a story always includes the writer's opinion, either subtle or overt.

If you want to put yourself out there, and write about social issues, you better be able to justify your position, and do with grace and humility. I write slash, and I respect the fact that there will be those who disagree, pleasantly or not. *shrugs*. If its really rude, I think that says more about the reader than my writing. I have also received 'fair-minded' complaints, some a little rough, sure, but they make me a better writer.

Both the writer and reader enter a social contract, and even if a bunch of unsigned reviews flame you, the writer has to take the high ground (and doing so often proves they are mature enough to speak on the topic.) We owe it to our readers to carefully consider all positions, and respectfully listen to the reactions of others. FanFiction is no place for writers who choose 'extreme' topics and have thin skin and petty politics.

Whinging about negative reactions is not going to make me believe your respect your readers or the topic. Most modern writers realize about triggers, and put disclaimers out of respect. It's fair to the reader, and more importantly, proves the writer empathizes because they have no intentions of dragging readers through the wringer for dramatic effect. If you don't respect your readers that much, you shouldn't be tackling sensitive topics.

I laughed when I read she could justify her position by telling her readers :
"For those who care I will tell you my baby is now 14 months old and I love him more than anything in this world. Seeing him growing and be this beautiful little man he is makes me want to cry at times. All of you that are mommies may understand a little bit LOL The love you feel for a child is just indescribable."

I found her 'for those who care' pretty ironic. Yeah, because being a mommy means you have an innate and superior understanding of the problems of the world, and giving birth means you can now speak for all women, including the victims of rape.

I may or may not have children, too. What does my private life have to do with my writing? If I have ten babies, does not make me worthy of a Pulitzer? Mother Theresa didn't give birth, so I guess her humanity is lacking.

I guess only serial killers can write murder mysteries.

I know that often fanfiction is just a way to exercise our first admendment, and not everything has to be superseriouzbizniz. I have enjoyed my share of fluff and PWP. Maybe, just maybe, writers who receive backlash can take the time to consider why that might be, and come back with a better perspective. If your readers didn't understand you, you need to work on that, right?

Whatever your position is as an author, there is no right or wrong, only good better, and best. And this:

Believe me, I've had my boatloads delivered, when I first started out.

griddy

griddy · « **Reply #470 on:** March 28, 2013, 08:32 AM »

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I liked No Ordinary Proposal. Yeah, it's got a bit of a stupid premise. But so do half the stories I read. And I've read a number of 38/18 stories when I used to read harlequins. So not too unusual.

I agree about agegap stories. I quite like them, especially when the author can show me that despite the age difference, social gap et al, they should be together.
Um, maybe if I finished it, I might have seen the characters redeem themselves?

I have read great stories that have shown me that age/money/ human vs monster doesn't matter. I think writing about an older Bella and teenaged Edward is even harder than old but rich Edward, and these writers do so with great success.

Osa Bella by Myg
Bella is a school counselor, but Edward is a vampire posing as a student. Will Bella defy her head and follow her heart? Or will she conquer her desire and do what she believes is right? Not your daughter's/niece's/little sister's Twilight. Angsty.
Rated: Fiction M - English - Romance/Fantasy - Bella & Edward - Chapters: 37 - Words: 185,919 - Reviews: 3,422 - Favs: 2,587 - Follows: 1,738 - Updated: 09-16-11 - Published: 06-09-10 - Status: Complete - id: 6038733

Look for the EPOV called "Reckoner" posted outside Ffn by Myg as well. Seven chapters and ah-mazing.

Everlasting Why by suitablyironicmoniker
A student of social work & her troubled client. Longing to help him, she suspects & soon learns there is far more beneath the surface than she could have ever guessed. & perhaps her motives for helping are more complicated than she's willing to admit. AU
Rated: Fiction M - English - Romance/Supernatural - Bella & Edward - Chapters: 41 - Words: 171,428 - Reviews: 2,243 - Favs: 847 - Follows: 830 - Updated: 12-02-12 - Published: 11-01-11 - Status: Complete - id: 7515357

I am reading a great age gap right now called:
There's a Word for It by eiluned price
I hadn't liked 17-year-old boys even when I was 17. So what is it about Edward Cullen that's so compelling? Whatever it is, I can't afford to find out.
Rated: Fiction M - English - Romance/Drama - Bella & Edward - Chapters: 3 - Words: 14,729 - Reviews: 108 - Favs: 77 - Follows: 168 - Updated: 03-20-13 - Published: 02-26-13 - id: 9051652

eiluned price is the bomb, I loved her college-age Twilight retelling "Getting Warmer". Her lemons were hawt

Sigh, another cool banner that drew me in.... but I flounced HARD.

Beyond Inappropriate by bornonhalloween
Edward is Off Limits, but when he tempts her again and again, how much can a hot-blooded, middle-aged woman take? Bella knows better than to lust after her son's best friend, but he's so damn perfect and the consequences seem miles away. All human, all BPOV. Rated M for lemon times.
Rated: Fiction M - English - Romance - Chapters: 65 - Words: 75,162 - Reviews: 5,197 - Favs: 583 - Follows: 634 - Updated: 12-27-12 - Published: 09-10-12 - Status: Complete - id: 8514811

This one did not work for me. Bella came across as sketchy, selfish and a paedo, which is too bad since I did like this author's other stories, particularly the hair stylist one called Lather, Rinse, Repeat and I really like the 'big girl in college' Bella story, Comp Sem 101. I never thought Bella's conflict felt over schtupping her son's HS friend was sincere, so it didn't work for me.

Ellachanted · « **Reply #471 on:** March 28, 2013, 09:30 AM »

I remember liking Worship as well. I'm on my phone so linking isn't possible.

I find I accept some things more than I would in real life only because I know it's fiction and also because it's Bella and Edward. Because you want them to be together. Otherwise you wouldn't read fanfics about them. LOL!

I do agree with a lot of what you said. But I mostly read to escape, so I tend to flounce overly angsty stuff unless it's really well written. I also don't review when I don't like something. I've found authors that don't write well don't want to hear how bad they write. Even if it's done politely.

griddy · « **Reply #472 on:** March 28, 2013, 01:23 PM »

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I remember liking Worship as well.

I've found authors that don't write well don't want to hear how bad they write. Even if it's done politely.

Oh, Worship was good, too. And verra bad, but in the best way.

Worship by beegurl13
"Age shouldn't matter. When you meet the person that completes all the unfinished parts of you, it shouldn't matter about anything else." The story of a brazen young man, an invisible woman, and an unholy worship. E&B, AH, rated M, drabble-ish type fic.
Rated: Fiction M - English - Angst/Romance - Bella & Edward - Chapters: 65 - Words: 81,100 - Reviews: 5,834 - Favs: 1,228 - Follows: 973 - Updated: 02-14-12 - Published: 09-19-11 - Status: Complete - id: 7395050

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aaaaaand Counterpoint and Art After Five by sleepyvalentina. That was the first story that led me to reconsider age gap taboos. I had steered clear well before then. The flames that poor writer used to get was unbelievable, back in the day. She had it pulled for the longest time.

I liked it because the writer wasn't an apologist for her characters, trying to 'sell' the reader that they were different but sooo good and worthy, and it was society's fault they had to hid their love. Nope. Bella was older, his teacher, and definitely flawed, but she did get herself figured out, in a believable way, but after much pain and angst.

Writers can take a page from Bella's journey.

The thing about reviews, is their seems to be two camps: sycophants, and those who have something to say, whether to unload, or offer their opinion, no matter how unwelcome.

And you're so right: not all authors care or want to hear it no matter what, but there are a lot who DO want to hear it, good or bad.

I know I do. Yeah, sometimes it stings, but if you don't listen, you can miss the forest for the trees. I mean, as writer you are asking for feedback with the sincere impetus to learn and improve

.... or you are writing fanfiction for attention.

High reviews from a bunch of sock puppets is a case of the emperor has no clothes.

Next, some self-publisher will be happily relieving them of their money. Its a whole different ballgame dealing with the public, and not just our Edward happy community. I mean, some of authors have just disappeared, but many have been subject to Goodreads and their book made into poster-child for ignominy.

When you publish, it's not emails forwarded from fanfiction, but also hate mail addressed to your publisher, and forwarded to your home address. Your name is attached to it, even as a pen name. Who you are can be sourced out. There are Christian groups that target 'smut' authors and have letter campaigns, usually deriding weaker authors.

Better to learn 'the hard way' in Fanfiction, where you don't have a face and home address attached to your 'naughty' stories. Not until you've got the hang of writing, at least, so you at least defend your work without apologizing. If you can't take a bad review on FanFiction, chances are you won't be ready for the Real World.

deranged_dreamer · « **Reply #473 on:** March 28, 2013, 05:12 PM »

Curve Ball
Author: staceleo PM
Opposites attract don't they? Not in Bella Swan's world. Unfortunately, the Captain of the baseball team has other ideas. A short chapter tale written for mauigirl60.
Follow/FavoriteRated: Fiction M - English - Romance/Humor - Bella & Edward - Chapters: 49 - Words: 22,252 - Reviews: 1,960 - Favs: 291 - Follows: 499 - Updated: 03-28-13 - Published: 03-15-13 - id: 9102043

Anyone reading this? I don't get the almost 2.000 reviews.
I'm on chapter 21 and I still don't think it is funny.
People on ADF were saying how funny and great it is.

S. · « **Reply #474 on:** March 28, 2013, 05:20 PM »

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Curve Ball
Author: staceleo PM
Opposites attract don't they? Not in Bella Swan's world. Unfortunately, the Captain of the baseball team has other ideas. A short chapter tale written for mauigirl60.
Follow/FavoriteRated: Fiction M - English - Romance/Humor - Bella & Edward - Chapters: 49 - Words: 22,252 - Reviews: 1,960 - Favs: 291 - Follows: 499 - Updated: 03-28-13 - Published: 03-15-13 - id: 9102043

Anyone reading this? I don't get the almost 2.000 reviews.
I'm on chapter 21 and I still don't think it is funny.
People on ADF were saying how funny and great it is.

Most of these stories has such a large number of reviews because the authors advertise their stories in any given group on FB. 2-3 years ago the story had to be good to have a lot of reviews now you only have to post it in a few groups on FB and then everyone has to read it because their friends reads it and if their friends reads it then it means it's good and you can't be worst and not read it.

deranged_dreamer · « **Reply #475 on:** March 28, 2013, 05:23 PM »

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Most of these stories has such a large number of reviews because the authors advertise their stories in any given group on FB. 2-3 years ago the story had to be good to have a lot of reviews now you only have to post it in a few groups on FB and then everyone has to read it because their friends reads it and if their friends reads it then it means it's good and you can't be worst and not read it.

It's so bad I can't stop reading. It's supposed to be a crack fic. But still.

S. · « **Reply #476 on:** March 29, 2013, 12:26 PM »

I can't read her stories:
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She is trying to create possessive Edward but he is not possessive. He is aggressive and vulgar psychopath with a tendency to violence. Almost all of her stories contain such Edward and in almost every story he calls her sl*t, b*tch, w*ore because she looked at Jacob or she spoke to him. Of course in the end he is always right and he is right with calling her all these names and she is the one who is wrong.

Ellachanted · « **Reply #477 on:** March 29, 2013, 12:50 PM »

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I can't read her stories:
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She is trying to create possessive Edward but he is not possessive. He is aggressive and vulgar psychopath with a tendency to violence. Almost all of her stories contain such Edward and in almost every story he calls her sl*t, b*tch, w*ore because she looked at Jacob or she spoke to him. Of course in the end he is always right and he is right with calling her all these names and she is the one who is wrong.

LOL! I think this subject has come up a few times. I did like her "Edward's Christmas Headache" - in that one, Tanya was the crazy one. I haven't read anything else by her, but nothing I've heard makes me want to.

ajamm · « **Reply #478 on:** March 29, 2013, 10:34 PM »

I'm thinking about flouncing this one!

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it seems alright and I like it, but all of a sudden Bella think its cute to wear a dress for a wedding with knee high converse.

I cannot!

deranged_dreamer · « **Reply #479 on:** March 30, 2013, 05:17 AM »

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I'm thinking about flouncing this one!

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it seems alright and I like it, but all of a sudden Bella think its cute to wear a dress for a wedding with knee high converse. I cannot!

A KScrew fan.

I really can't read about escorts.

ajamm · « **Reply #480 on:** March 30, 2013, 06:51 AM »

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A KScrew fan.

I really can't read about escorts.

For me it depends... There's a two shot about Edward being an escort that I like. Paper Flowers... I think that's it have you read it?
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