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Thread #4 - We are crazy talkers here!

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This is the new thread as the other was sooo long and had lots of pages. Continuation of our wonderful discussions on Twilight Fanfiction, Books, and Life in general.  But mostly Twilight fanfics... and life stuff that will get me a NOT ALLOWED statement. 

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« Reply #5201 on: September 22, 2013, 08:22 PM »
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Mary Elizabeth just left a review on Amazon.


I think Shey Stahl was jaydmommy? She wrote Lapped Traffic, most of her pubbed books were P2P, and I read somewhere, she ripped a sex scene from a hunterhunting fic.

There is all kinds of drama unfolding over this right now. Twitter, Facebook, gr, Amazon, it's all blowing up.

I went to that chicks fb page....Shey whatever and the fans are all over each other. Sheys supporters are calling anyone who is saying her ‘book' is plagiarized bullies and that the Dusty authors should contact a lawyer instead of bullying. Mary Elizabeth was there for a min until the 'author' blocked her.

I looked at the comparisons and I don't even know how people can deny it's been stolen?

PS. I was on a timeout from the fandom when this went down and I never did hear really anything about this but does anyone know what went down with Angstgoddess? I've always wanted to know but never really had anyone to ask.

And...Demaris is gonna shit when she sees Dusty was plagiarized
 
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« Reply #5202 on: September 22, 2013, 08:57 PM »
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There is all kinds of drama unfolding over this right now. Twitter, Facebook, gr, Amazon, it's all blowing up.

I went to that chicks fb page....Shey whatever and the fans are all over each other. Sheys supporters are calling anyone who is saying her ‘book' is plagiarized bullies and that the Dusty authors should contact a lawyer instead of bullying. Mary Elizabeth was there for a min until the 'author' blocked her.

I looked at the comparisons and I don't even know how people can deny it's been stolen?

PS. I was on a timeout from the fandom when this went down and I never did hear really anything about this but does anyone know what went down with Angstgoddess? I've always wanted to know but never really had anyone to ask.

And...Demaris is gonna shit when she sees Dusty was plagiarized

Just jumping in here because I have about 10 pages to catch up on and I've been watching this unfold all morning on twitter.

The evidence - as far as I'm concerned is irrefutable - just look at the cover of the book, and compare to Dusty's summary:



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She loves him. He loves her crazy. She's a hopeless romantic. He's just hopeless. She's afraid to let go. He won't let her. A story about a silly girl in love with a foolish boy. Here, forever is a lie.

I found a copy of the book - thank goodness I didn't pay for it - and I was curious about the ending...

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Or maybe that happens in the F4LLS futuretake - I decided not to read it until part 2 came out - I hope this latest Dusty drama doesn't kill part 2! [/spoiler]


Refresh my memory about Angstgoddess - I can't recall anything.
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« Reply #5203 on: September 22, 2013, 09:05 PM »
I love a good conspiracy theory - and even though I thought of this all by myself and it's probably already been discussed ad nauseam, but...

What if the Dusty writer that wanted to publish did all this to bring attention to Dusty and back the other one into a corner!

 
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« Reply #5204 on: September 22, 2013, 09:18 PM »
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I love a good conspiracy theory - and even though I thought of this all by myself and it's probably already been discussed ad nauseam, but...

What if the Dusty writer that wanted to publish did all this to bring attention to Dusty and back the other one into a corner!



Which one wanted to publish? From the reaction I've seen from Mary Elizabeth on Facebook, it wouldn't be her. I don't know if the other author (Sarah?) Is on Facebook but I haven't seen anything except from Mary Elizabeth. But I'm not following all the different conversations going on about it. I just watched Sheys page for a minute

There was some sort of drama with Angstgoddess a few years ago and she left the fandom (with an awesome fic or two abandoned :/) but I have no idea what it was over or who else was involved
 
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Re: Twific discussion and recommendations Part Four- ADULT ONLY - OVER 18 ONLY
« Reply #5205 on: September 22, 2013, 09:24 PM »
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Just curious...  for those of you talking about leaving reviews at Amazon vs using Goodreads.    I saw someone mention that Goodreads wasn't private enough.   If you set it up with an anonymous email address and don't add people to your friends list, then it's private right?   I'm curious because i like to have my reviews not displayed to the whole world. :)

I used to post reviews on Amazon but then I realized that people could click on my name and see things I'd purchased and other book reviews I'd left.  I didn't like having that much info out there.   I wish there was a way that I could easily post anonymous reviews at Amazon.
Yeah, but only Amazon knows what I bought unless I review.  I don't review everything. 

No I was talking about tracking my library.  Using GoodReads to track my library would mean everyone could see all the books I own.  Not necessarily something I would want to share.  Besides the fact that mostly? I read fanfic now.  ;D
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Re: Twific discussion and recommendations Part Four- ADULT ONLY - OVER 18 ONLY
« Reply #5206 on: September 22, 2013, 09:28 PM »
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I love a good conspiracy theory - and even though I thought of this all by myself and it's probably already been discussed ad nauseam, but...

What if the Dusty writer that wanted to publish did all this to bring attention to Dusty and back the other one into a corner!


LOL! I thought about it.  But I think Mary Elizabeth was the one who wanted to publish & Sarah didn't.  That was how I remembered it. 

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« Reply #5207 on: September 22, 2013, 09:39 PM »
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LOL! I thought about it.  But I think Mary Elizabeth was the one who wanted to publish & Sarah didn't.  That was how I remembered it.

That's what I thought, that Sarah was the one who didn't want to publish. But thats just what I had heard.

It seems like it's the Shey chick who seems to have a habit of ripping off the work of others. Dumb decision all around but to pick a fic as widely known as Dusty? Dumbass. That would be like someone plagiarizing Wide Awake for how well known and popular that fic is.

Regardless, her career will be shot after this. Even if Sarah and Mary Elizabeth don't pursue legal action, that 'author' would have an impossible time recovering from this. It's everywhere.
 
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Offline Astro2009

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« Reply #5208 on: September 22, 2013, 09:42 PM »
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Which one wanted to publish? From the reaction I've seen from Mary Elizabeth on Facebook, it wouldn't be her. I don't know if the other author (Sarah?) Is on Facebook but I haven't seen anything except from Mary Elizabeth. But I'm not following all the different conversations going on about it. I just watched Sheys page for a minute

There was some sort of drama with Angstgoddess a few years ago and she left the fandom (with an awesome fic or two abandoned :/) but I have no idea what it was over or who else was involved

I was going to say that it was Mary Elizabeth that wanted to publish, but maybe I'm confused - that does happen from time to time.  ;D :D

Hmmm - AG still has a You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login. Was it her and Icy that had the big smackdown when Icy did the P2P with MotU/FSoG?

Or maybe it just stems from You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login- remember when the Literary Union (or whatever they were called - the Sonic the Hedgehog loving team that tried to get all twifics removed?) were on a rampage?

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I'm a terrible gossip! Not that I gossip much - I mean that I'm terrible at it because I seem to miss all the drama and then can't remember what happened anyway!  :-[
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« Reply #5209 on: September 22, 2013, 10:00 PM »
Oooo - here's the latest from the twitterverse!

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Freckled cheeks, sunburns, a river bank - young, wild, and brave. Sophie Kaden falls in the love with the smart-mouthed boy she can't seem to forget. She's looking to fit in for the summer - he's just hopeless. She's afraid to let go - he won't let her.

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A Teambella23 Fic: Freckled, sunburned, and scraped, our lives are lived barefoot and sandy, rolling under the baking sun and surfing the salty water—young, wild, and brave. Volkswagens, bonfires, and "You call that a pickup truck?" We were born into this, but we won't be like them. We're invincible. We're seventeen. We're smarter than that. What's the worst that can happen?

 
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« Reply #5210 on: September 22, 2013, 10:13 PM »
Forgive me is this has been mentioned here already, I'm following a lot of threads on this, but I'm also reading that Stahl/jaydmommy's Lapped Traffic also ripped a sex scene out of Hunterhuntings Misapprenshion of Bella Swan. So all SORTS of plagiarism up in there.
 
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« Reply #5211 on: September 22, 2013, 10:59 PM »
Okay I need to bitch for a sec so I can get over this. Someone was looking for a story I remember reading.  I spent a couple hours looking for it. Finally find it & upload the epub version & without a thanks for finding it, someone asks anyone have it in PDF? Really? You can't download & convert it? And really, epubs are readable on everything.  Grrrr.  Why do I bother.   :-\

Though I have to say the person posting the original request has not been back for a few hours ;)

Okay thanks.  I may go back to lurking there again ...
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« Reply #5212 on: September 22, 2013, 11:07 PM »
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Okay I need to bitch for a sec so I can get over this. Someone was looking for a story I remember reading.  I spent a couple hours looking for it. Finally find it & upload the epub version & without a thanks for finding it, someone asks anyone have it in PDF? Really? You can't download & convert it? And really, epubs are readable on everything.  Grrrr.  Why do I bother.   :-\

Though I have to say the person posting the original request has not been back for a few hours ;)

Okay thanks.  I may go back to lurking there again ...

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« Reply #5213 on: September 22, 2013, 11:11 PM »
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Don't let one ungrateful poster send you to lurking, we appreciate you!
LOL! Thanks!  But I was just talking Facebook.  You probably can't shut me up here :)

I used to just go there for the recs.  So my lurking.  Though I really like the twi tech page.  ;)
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« Reply #5214 on: September 22, 2013, 11:13 PM »
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LOL! Thanks!  But I was just talking Facebook.  You probably can't shut me up here :)

I used to just go there for the recs.  So my lurking.  Though I really like the twi tech page.  ;)

Ah gotcha. I maintain that FB is evil.
 
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« Reply #5215 on: September 22, 2013, 11:19 PM »
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Ah gotcha. I maintain that FB is evil.
It has its uses. I joined the Actorward group there first.  Because I like Actorward best.  Goes with the RPattz love, I suppose. Then it went from there.  But I have no info, I share nothing personal & I have a fake birthday.  So all is good. :)

Okay off to bed. Have a good night /morning /afternoon /evening. Did I get them all??
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It has its uses. I joined the Actorward group there first.  Because I like Actorward best.  Goes with the RPattz love, I suppose. Then it went from there.  But I have no info, I share nothing personal & I have a fake birthday.  So all is good. :)

Okay off to bed. Have a good night /morning /afternoon /evening. Did I get them all??

You forgot "good riddance"  :D :D :D. Specially to that dumb as fck plagiarist who i hope will never have a writing career >:(. How the hell any reader can still trust her after this fiasco will be a puzzle to me...and to have "fans" supporting her?!? did they ever read/try to compare to make informed decisions?  >:(
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« Reply #5217 on: September 23, 2013, 12:56 AM »
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You forgot "good riddance"  :D :D :D. Specially to that dumb as fck plagiarist who i hope will never have a writing career >:(. How the hell any reader can still trust her after this fiasco will be a puzzle to me...and to have "fans" supporting her?!? did they ever read/try to compare to make informed decisions?  >:(

Makes you wonder about people, doesn't it?

She probably also goes by different names - so she'll just "write" something new and publish it with a new name.

Also, is this a side effect of self-publishing and/or all of the little publishing houses out there? They don't have the resources to check authenticity? What impact would something like this have on a publishing house? I expect that they have paid her something, and they have also taken the gamble of printing and promoting the books she's "written", so are they the ones that ultimately will be out of pocket?

I obviously know nothing about the publishing, printing or business world!
 

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« Reply #5218 on: September 23, 2013, 01:14 AM »
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Okay I need to bitch for a sec so I can get over this. Someone was looking for a story I remember reading.  I spent a couple hours looking for it. Finally find it & upload the epub version & without a thanks for finding it, someone asks anyone have it in PDF? Really? You can't download & convert it? And really, epubs are readable on everything.  Grrrr.  Why do I bother.   :-\

Though I have to say the person posting the original request has not been back for a few hours ;)

Okay thanks.  I may go back to lurking there again ...

A few weeks ago, I responded to a post on ADF -

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Ok i've kind of stepped away from fiction for awhile and am ready to get back to reading i'm looking for a few fics that i can no longer find.

1) I think its called Aha Shake where bella is a hand model and Emmet is a chubby chaser

2.) Order of the seers sequel

3) One where bella and edward hunted zombies

4.) The Bitch and the HellCat (this story is freaking awesome and i can not find a completed version anywhere and its been forever and a day, is this on hiatus or something?)

I had these stories saved but my computer crashed and i lost everything so it really sucks that i'm now ready to start reading again and cant.

I hunted around and answered all of the questions for her - I was the ONLY one who replied to her CF - and got nothing back. I hunted up fics, quoted reviews, looked in GR...and not even a "thanks".

So I feel your pain, Ella.

 

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« Reply #5219 on: September 23, 2013, 03:31 AM »
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There is all kinds of drama unfolding over this right now. Twitter, Facebook, gr, Amazon, it's all blowing up.

I went to that chicks fb page....Shey whatever and the fans are all over each other. Sheys supporters are calling anyone who is saying her ‘book' is plagiarized bullies and that the Dusty authors should contact a lawyer instead of bullying. Mary Elizabeth was there for a min until the 'author' blocked her.

I looked at the comparisons and I don't even know how people can deny it's been stolen?

PS. I was on a timeout from the fandom when this went down and I never did hear really anything about this but does anyone know what went down with Angstgoddess? I've always wanted to know but never really had anyone to ask.

And...Demaris is gonna shit when she sees Dusty was plagiarized

The AG & Icy drama was intense and it looks like there is yet another blow up (in this case fair enough).  I have to say that on some members of the Twi community are right ...... slagging of other each other and authors with real vitriol.  You don't seem to get any of this drama in other of the fandoms.  :o
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« Reply #5220 on: September 23, 2013, 03:49 AM »
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The AG & Icy drama was intense and it looks like there is yet another blow up (in this case fair enough).  I have to say that on some members of the Twi community are right ...... slagging of other each other and authors with real vitriol.  You don't seem to get any of this drama in other of the fandoms.  :o

The wisest thing I saw today:

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I think the focus should now be on reporting her, not going after her.

I agree about the vitriol, but I also saw a comment - perhaps from Mary Elizabeth? - that said the Twifandom is like a big Italian family - we all squabble amongst ourselves, but if someone crosses one of us, they better look out.

I thought that was very accurate.
 
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