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Thread #6 - We are crazy talkers here! Join in the fun!

ADULT DISCUSSION HERE, SO TRY TO KEEP IT CLEAN! UM NO, WAIT! IF YOU ARE EASILY OFFENDED, LOOK AWAY NOW! 

This is the new thread as the other was sooo long and had lots of pages. Continuation of our wonderful discussions on Twilight Fanfiction, Books, and Life in general.  But mostly Twilight fanfics... and life stuff that will get me a NOT ALLOWED statement. 

Okay, here is a place to discuss what you are reading, ask for recommendations and complain about the writing.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion, so please play nice   

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Chapter 17 according to Google! There was even a search option for "When does Edward tell Bella he loves her in Twilight?" Which was halfway through the book I think. But who knows how quickly Bella was thinking about love in her inner monologue.

I think in story terms it took Edward roughly a week to fall in love with Bella in Twilight but you have to read Midnight Sun (Edward's POV) to get to it. After hiding in Alaska for a week, he comes back and sees Bella as a vamp in Alice's head, He wants to run again, Alice dares him to try leaving and proclaims he loves her, he then starts his stalker/criminal trespass behaviour by sitting and watching Bella sleep. So folks?...We have to suck it up!  I'm of the mind that you can't complain about things that are canon. I mean it's great when authors break away but if something is part of the canon story then you have to live with it, its what makes it Twilight, (not HP) like Bella's f*cking blue dress...or the meadow >:(  I grind my teeth every time I read that sh!t but I have to live with it or read another fandom.
 
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I can only say four things to you, STAY AWAY FROM HTDAMS. But also Super, instant love between B/E happens so often it's practically canon. Or, actually? There might not be any 'practically' about it....is it canon? I can't remember how quickly they fell in love in Twilight....Hmmmm? *goes off to research*

Why can't I ever learn!!!! I thought. "Let me have a look at what Loopy's reading". Just a quick 'click'...Now I'm stuck with you in Hell's Fire....F*ck. My. Life. From HTDAMS to this......F*ck. My. Life!  :pulling

Which author are you beta-ing for Goo or Jaxon? I enjoyed Jaxon's Pound of Flesh...I think? From I can remember......
Neither.  I would love to beta for them, but I think they both have teams.  I beta for Redtini, one of MizzDee's stories and BellaC874. 

I believe they fell in love pretty quick in Twilight.  At least Edward did.  Vampire mating and all.  Bella pretty much realized it when they went to the meadow. So that is probably were the love at first sight comes from

And Demaris? Just be glad you read so fast.  If I couldn't flounce once in a while, I would still be trying to read EP.   :D :D :D :D :P :banghead: :banghead:
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I think in story terms it took Edward roughly a week to fall in love with Bella in Twilight but you have to read Midnight Sun (Edward's POV) to get to it. After hiding in Alaska for a week, he comes back and sees Bella as a vamp in Alice's head, He wants to run again, Alice dares him to try leaving and proclaims he loves her, he then starts his stalker/criminal trespass behaviour by sitting and watching Bella sleep. So folks?...We have to suck it up!  I'm of the mind that you can't complain about things that are canon. I mean it's great when authors break away but if something is part of the canon story then you have to live with it, its what makes it Twilight, (not HP) like Bella's f*cking blue dress...or the meadow >:(  I grind my teeth every time I read that sh!t but I have to live with it or read another fandom.

Not a fan of canon, I guess?
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So true.  Speaking of flouncing, I've flounced so many things lately, and that includes Help Wanted.  The pacing of the events is too fast, but the writing is just I don't know how to say it, I guess the question is, "Can the Author be a bit more concise?"

The answer to that is yes; but most never do as every word they put down is a nugget of gold and takes them one step further to being the next literary marvel; which is where editors come in..... >:D
 
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Not a fan of canon, I guess?

Errr? Hello? You know me, I like my twifics as far from canon as you can get (which sometimes makes me wonder why I bother to read them) but some things are what they are... :P
 
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Lol, why do you think I posted the link. I just knew someone *cough*YOU*cough* would click on it and get sucked into the eye bleeding badness that it is.  :D :D :D
Love ya really hun.  :-* :-* :P :P

You're a b!tch!  :D
 
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The answer to that is yes; but most never do as every word they put down is a nugget of gold and takes them one step further to being the next literary marvel; which is where editors come in..... >:D

In reading some of it, I was saying to myself "Didn't you beta or prereader mention something about this?" I guess I don't understand is all.

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Errr? Hello? You know me, I like my twifics as far from canon as you can get (which sometimes makes me wonder why I bother to read them) but some things are what they are... :P

LOL true. For one of my story ideas I have something that I think perhaps not many authors have done, but I'm still investigating and seeing if it's plausible.
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The answer to that is yes; but most never do as every word they put down is a nugget of gold and takes them one step further to being the next literary marvel; which is where editors come in..... >:D
LOL! That makes me think of the Real Housewives of NY reunion show last night.  One of the ladies is a writer. Has been for years but only in the last few years has she started writing fiction.  A second wrote an autobiography.  The second started spreading rumors that the first had a ghost writer.  SHE didn't have a ghost writer herself but had a "team" like all authors do.  But the first who has had writing jobs for years must have had a ghost writer.  So annoying.

But it did make me think of the second woman.  LOL!
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In reading some of it, I was saying to myself "Didn't you beta or prereader mention something about this?" I guess I don't understand is all.
As a beta, you may not be a better writer than the person you are beta-ing for. It's all free.  Most writers use this a a learning method.  They get comments from the readers which hopefully help as well. 

Part of the problem too, is that many readers just want more, and when you are writing a serial story like they do (posting a chapter at a time) you don't look at the story as a whole before posting it.  So the chapter may read perfectly on it's own. But taken as a whole, really needs some editing.  Does that make sense?
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I think in story terms it took Edward roughly a week to fall in love with Bella in Twilight but you have to read Midnight Sun (Edward's POV) to get to it. After hiding in Alaska for a week, he comes back and sees Bella as a vamp in Alice's head, He wants to run again, Alice dares him to try leaving and proclaims he loves her, he then starts his stalker/criminal trespass behaviour by sitting and watching Bella sleep. So folks?...We have to suck it up!  I'm of the mind that you can't complain about things that are canon. I mean it's great when authors break away but if something is part of the canon story then you have to live with it, its what makes it Twilight, (not HP) like Bella's f*cking blue dress...or the meadow >:(  I grind my teeth every time I read that sh!t but I have to live with it or read another fandom.

See I'm not a fan of canon Twilight, but I have such a hard time separating myself from canon when I'm reading vamp fics. When I was still reading twific, Breaking Point by sugarbuckets, which is a Rosalie/Edward story seemed SOOOooOoOooOo angsty, but now I'm going through it all "Why, HOW DOES THIS WORK? why are you like this?" The summary is that Rosalie and Edward have "secretly" been in love the whole time

Because mating for life~ how do you find a mate that's supposed to be your whole world, but find yourself irrevocably in love with someone else?! 
Or saying they're selfish in wanting to keep it a secret. Because they were seen as brother and sister! Dipshits! Carlisle turned Rosalie as a potential mate in the first place, before Emmett entered the picture, that would have been the perfect opportunity to declare your love. Not 100 years later. Idiots.

So I read these stories and just shake my head, then flounce. But canon twilight is so bad so I don't know why I'm so loyal to it, when I'm all about AU lol
 

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As a beta, you may not be a better writer than the person you are beta-ing for. It's all free.  Most writers use this a a learning method.  They get comments from the readers which hopefully help as well. 

Part of the problem too, is that many readers just want more, and when you are writing a serial story like they do (posting a chapter at a time) you don't look at the story as a whole before posting it.  So the chapter may read perfectly on it's own. But taken as a whole, really needs some editing.  Does that make sense?

That makes a lot of sense, which actually bolsters my reasoning for waiting until everything is prewritten before even thinking about posting anything. That's also a reason why I tell people who see my work, however rough it is to be brutally honest.
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Twilight vampires are seriously the worst. They mate for life, which I guess is romantic. But they don't sleep and they SPARKLE! Plus I have a hard time picturing GOLDEN EYES. Why couldn't she have just used hazel. Hazel I can picture. Hazel doesn't scream camp. Hazel doesn't look ORANGE when they had to wear contacts in the movie  :-\
 
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In reading some of it, I was saying to myself "Didn't you beta or prereader mention something about this?" I guess I don't understand is all.

LOL true. For one of my story ideas I have something that I think perhaps not many authors have done, but I'm still investigating and seeing if it's plausible.

Please tell me you're writing a Daddyward where the child, now a teenager, hates Edward for being an absent father?! And sticks to its guns (if there was an actual gun involved all the better) for more that 3 chapters!  PLEASE, SOMEONE WRITE THAT STORY!

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Twilight vampires are seriously the worst. They mate for life, which I guess is romantic. But they don't sleep and they SPARKLE! Plus I have a hard time picturing GOLDEN EYES. Why couldn't she have just used hazel. Hazel I can picture. Hazel doesn't scream camp. Hazel doesn't look ORANGE when they had to wear contacts in the movie  :-\

LOL I'm crying with laughter! I guess you're a little worked up, eh?  :D :D
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Please tell me you're writing a Daddyward where the child, now a teenager, hates Edward for being an absent father?! And sticks to its guns (if there was an actual gun involved all the better) for more that 3 chapters!  PLEASE, SOMEONE WRITE THAT STORY!


I'm not, but I'm going to add that to the list because I have a plot bunny where that's a very reasonable direction.
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Twilight vampires are seriously the worst. They mate for life, which I guess is romantic. But they don't sleep and they SPARKLE! Plus I have a hard time picturing GOLDEN EYES. Why couldn't she have just used hazel. Hazel I can picture. Hazel doesn't scream camp. Hazel doesn't look ORANGE when they had to wear contacts in the movie  :-\

Amber colored eyes could have worked too.
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Please tell me you're writing a Daddyward where the child, now a teenager, hates Edward for being an absent father?! And sticks to its guns (if there was an actual gun involved all the better) for more that 3 chapters!  PLEASE, SOMEONE WRITE THAT STORY!

LOL I'm crying with laughter! I guess you're a little worked up, eh?  :D :D

I will find you one. I normally cringe at how quick the kids are in stories to accept Edward as their father, but I remember meeting my dad later in life and being really excited about having a REAL DAD!

I really need to stop posting, but Demaris has me in a roll with the mention if canon.

I can see how so many authors take liberties with Edward as a vamp before Bella and the relationships he might have encountered, because we never get his POV and we only know that he's never had intercourse. Right? He could have indulged in other encounters. Then there's that windchymes story where he was used for like 2 seconds in his human life and it totally didn't count, but it did enough to produce a kid.
 
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Errr? Hello? You know me, I like my twifics as far from canon as you can get (which sometimes makes me wonder why I bother to read them) but some things are what they are... :P

Non cannon is brilliant, the more non cannon it is the more I like it.  Charlie & Leah anyone?
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I will find you one. I normally cringe at how quick the kids are in stories to accept Edward as their father, but I remember meeting my dad later in life and being really excited about having a REAL DAD!

I really need to stop posting, but Demaris has me in a roll with the mention if canon.

I can see how so many authors take liberties with Edward as a vamp before Bella and the relationships he might have encountered, because we never get his POV and we only know that he's never had intercourse. Right? He could have indulged in other encounters. Then there's that windchymes story where he was used for like 2 seconds in his human life and it totally didn't count, but it did enough to produce a kid.

PLEASE DO! I think that's why all the 'secret' kids in a Daddyward story are always so young, it's easier, from the authors POV I mean, no messy teenage abandonment issues to have to contend with.

Oh God! I hate that Windchymes story! Utter nonsense! There's another AH one where E/B have a baby after they 'rub' their naked privates against each other; Bella goes into labour and has no idea what's happening, I can't for the life of me remember the name of that story...

I have to stop posting so I can finish that f*ing So Right But so Wrong! Good Night everyone!!
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Twilight vampires are seriously the worst. They mate for life, which I guess is romantic. But they don't sleep and they SPARKLE! Plus I have a hard time picturing GOLDEN EYES. Why couldn't she have just used hazel. Hazel I can picture. Hazel doesn't scream camp. Hazel doesn't look ORANGE when they had to wear contacts in the movie  :-\
The sparkle part always makes me think of young girls with their sparkly pony toys.  Or unicorns. LOL!

But I never got why thhad such a problem with the Gold eyes. My cat has very pretty gold/yellow eyes. How hard could it be to get that color? 
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Non cannon is brilliant, the more non cannon it is the more I like it.  Charlie & Leah anyone?
Now to me?  This is semi-canon. Non canon would be Rose and Carlisle. Or Rose and Jasper. Can you imagine?
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